fish tank

[jordan]

hi this is a video of my fancy fish,2 butterfly koi and a normal koi

 heres the link hope you all like them lol
 
 http://s921.photobucket.com/albums/ad59/jordanpettinger/?action=view&current=fish2.mp4

[saph.st24]

jordan

your tank is nice and clear,
typical koi lol(oh yeah you wont be able to have gravel in your pond plants pots big pebbles only or you will be forever picking up off the bottom and catc hing floating plants :)

keep a close eye on the koi as they grow they will eventually bully the fancies, they will fin nip the fancies as they are slower and cant get out of the way of the koi, the koi will also chase the fancies till they become so stressed,ill or die (i speak from experience,jelly my pure white fancy goldie had a beautifull set of fins came down one morning can the koi where shredding him to bits,i just glad i had the pond to put the koi into)
keep a close eye on the tanks water perameters koi play havoc with water in a tank with them being a dirty fish (they creat a lot of waste)
have a look here this will let you about the ph for koi
http://www.koiponduk.org/smf/index.php?topic=1157.0

redcap like ph 6.5-7.5
black moor like ph 6.0-8.0

[jordan]

hi
 thanks lol and im glad you told me able the gravel for when thay go into the pond as i would of probly done it lol and i will look out for the fish bulling thay arnt doin it at the mo but will keep an eye out lol fingers crosst thay stay ok with them till thay go into the pond lol

[jordan]

im woundering if enny one can anser my qustin but when my 2 butterfly koi and one normal koi go into the pond if my normal koi is a female and one of my buttefly koi are male if thay breed will i have lots of butterfly koi becouse i only wanterd two butterfly koi in there and the rest just normal koi pleas does enny one know ?

[saph.st24]

hi jordan
around the 1980s japanese breeders bred wild indonesian longfin river carp with traditional koi to get a hardier koi as a result the koi ended up with longer fins ,longer barbells, pompom nostrils and they are belived to be hardier aka the butterfly koi
alot of koi breeders and keepers dont like them as they dont see them as true koi

it is more then likely you will end up with either a mix of long and short fin or have a hybred which will show signs of both parents
to be honest it would be a case of wait and see what you get

[jordan]

oh thanks i love the butterfly koi but i just dont want a pond full i like the more normal koi better lol so i dont know what to do wether to keep them and put them in the pond when its done or sell them and keep my normal koi 

[saph.st24]

jordan

if they did spawn then let nature take its course the eggs and fry wont survive unless you take the eggsout ,hatch and rear them seperate from the adult koi,so dont worry about having to get rid of you butterfly koi 

[andykoitech]

Hi Saph and Jordan,
I dont mean to burst anyones bubbles here but Longfin Butterfly koi are actualy ghosties and will only produce more 'longish' finned ghost koi. If you let your water parameters slip a bit they will darken as characteristic of ghost koi

[jordan]

i dont get it how can butterfly koi be gost koi

[andykoitech]

Ghost koi are basically produced from cross breeding and are a popular variety of koi except with breeders as a ghost koi male will litteraly destroy all colour strains if crossed with say a kohaku or doitsu variety. Long fin butterflys are nowadays bred for the ornamental market because of their unusal appearance. Where as they are hardy when they get larger the long fins give the appearance of being split or torn but it is perfectly natural

[saph.st24]

see you learn somthing new everyday

[jordan]

yep you do lol

[jordan]

hi if enny one has koi in fish tanks could the people that do post photos and videos as i would love to see themi have got to koi and now i have them im just so addicterd to them and other koi in fish tanks thanks

[saph.st24]

hi jordan
i will start this off for you i will start and new topic

[jordan]

thank you lol